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Wednesday, February 20, 2008  

 JBA Dominator GTA Mustang up for sale
 

The Dominator Mustang, built by JBA for a Road & Track shootout almost 20 years ago, is for sale (I'm not affiliated with it in any way). This is an interesting Fox-body Mustang and is worth a look, at least for historical puposes. Asking price: $41,000. Currently running with a 5.8 V-8 and T-56 (replacing the original 302, which used variously a Toploader 4-speed and a Doug Nash 5-speed). The car also uses SVO disc brakes (aka a mashup of Crown Vic cop car and Lincoln parts that had  also been used on the Mustang SVO, Lincoln LSC, and Saleen Mustangs). The original Capri hatch (alledgedly more aerodynamic) has been replaced with a Mustang hatch and large wing.

I remember this car very well from my Mustang days in the eighties and early nineties. It was an inspiration for my own '91 GT build-up ( link to my 91 GT buildup page  ), although I didn't take it anywhere near this far due to Ford's plans at the time to replace the Fox mustang with one built on the MN-12 platform itself. Ford then cancelled those plans and the SN-95 Mustang was the result. Arguably the Dominator's abilities were exceeded by the SVT variations of those.

After the initial top-speed runs, the car was re-equipped with a transplanted Thunderbird IRS. Unfortunately, no pictures of this are available, nor is a description of how the transplant was accomplished. This would have been interesting to know at the time, since it's something I very much wanted for my own '89 and '91 Mustangs.

Follow the link in the title of this post to the Team Dominator site for complete information, including photos and PDFs of the original press articles. This is interesting reading!

The sale is currently running on eBay and ends on February 26th: eBay (right-click to open in new window).

One more historical note. I find it amusing that JBA took care to highlight the benefits of it's special front lower crossmember brace. I visited JBA in 1991 and bought one of these, flying it back home in my suitcase and eagerly installing it on my '91 (I didn't even have to raise the car). The brace itself was originally invented by Ford, and was first seen on Ron Smaldone's Muystang SVO at Nelson Ledges when it ended up upside down and was photographed with the non-stock peice showing. That peice soon made it's way to the Saleen Mustangs, and then to JBA. The peice itself was a short peice of box steel tubing and a pair of bolts. You could literally and exactly duplicate it yourself with a visit to the local hardware store and 10 minutes of work - there wasn't anything more to it. But it did work, and it was a hot peice of "technology" in it's day.


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Monday, February 04, 2008  

 "SVO" spoken here!
 

24 years after I bought my original Mustang SVO, I'm still a big fan, and I've put several items on my website explaining that.

My involvement with Ford started during college, when I had an old Mustang that just about literally rusted in half. My Mustang hobby took a turn for the better when  I bought a brand new (original) 1979 Mustang and took up road rallies, autocross, and then Open Track events. That led me to a gig helping with a race event at Nelson Ledges for several years, during which three of them Ford brought it's own development cars to race. The cars in two of those years were pre-production prototypes of the Mustang SVO. I worked directly in the pits with the Ford crew ands got to see everything and talk to everyone. I've written it up here: http://www.drivingenthusiast.net/sec-ford/special-reports/svo/index.htm - and it includes pictures and other information which are unique to the web.

The great race results of the SVOs and my talks with their engineers at the event led directly to my purchase of a new SVO shortly after they came out. The price was a then-astronomical $17,000. I used that car for several Open Track events for a couple of years. It was very nicely balanced, and it was the only Mustang that came from the factory with decent brakes and handling... the GT of it's age being embarrassingly bad in both areas.   I had an early model SVO, and it while it wasn't perfect it was far ahead of the Mustang GTs of the same years.  

Now, over 20 years later, I've been playing around with adding an original Mustang SVO to my "fleet". The car wouldn't cut it anymore as a track car, but it would be a nice project to work on. Finding a clean model isn't impossible, especially with some patience. But my time is very limited, and my automotive hobby doesn't get much of a time slice anymore. If I do find one, I want it to be in near-perfect condition.

There are also a couple of very active Mustang SVO groups, such as the SVO Club of America (SVOCA): http://www.svoca.com/  The following picture is from an autocross at their yearly convention, which for the second straight year in a row other responsibilities have prevented me from attending. Looking thru the pictures it's clear that there are very clean and well-maintained SVOs to be had. The following gorgeous blue example would be perfect.

DSCF0396-1.jpg picture by iragtrbdr

So we'll see if I can find the time to do one of these someday soon. Meanwhile, there's a lot more from Nelson Ledges to write up and get into my site, and I've even located a few of the original folks that were involved in that event.


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Thursday, August 30, 2007  

 My almost 79 Capri
 

My procession of 11 brand new Fox and SN95 Mustangs ('79 thru '03 comparison chart) almost started with a Mercury Capri. It was late in the 1979 model year, the all-new (although Fairmont-based) Mustang had been on the market for several months, and better yet I could now actually afford my first brand new car.

At the time, I lived outside of Buffalo New York in the suburb of Williamsville. I was still in college, but I'd already started in my chosen industry. I had been driving in TSD rallies, and had talked to some SCCA folks at the car show a few months earlier and wanted to get involved in autocross. I spotted a red/red '79 Mercury Capri hatchback, with V-8 engine, manual transmission, and no other options (standard high-back vinyl buckets!) in the lot of a Lincoln-Mercury dealer located across from the Boulevard Mall near Maple and Niagara Falls Blvd. The price was workable, the dealer arranged financing ($145/month for 4 years), and a final deal was agreed upon. Until, that is, the dealer also insisted on adding rust-proofing and some other treatments. 

Now this is Buffalo - the snow and rust belt. And it was a Ford, which meant it was doomed to rust as all Fords did then. But I was already a car enthusiast, and the thought of having rust-proofing on the cart was unacceptable. Rust-proofing back in those days was a black oily asphalt-type "goop" - you literally couldn't work under the hood without getting it on your arms. I didn't want it, but they wouldn't take no for an answer. So the deal was off, and they decided to keep my $100 down payment (can you believe the prices in those days?). What a bunch of jerks, and soon thereafter the dealership went out of business anyway. Good riddance.

Fortunately, a Ford dealer in the area (Al Maroone on Transit) had a '79 Cobra Mustang left on the lot - although it was a turbo 4-cylinder. This interested me technically and I appreciated the mid-range grunt the engine offered (although it had the HP of the 302 V-8, it didn't have the torque), and the handling was much better - the nose of the car was probably 100 pounds lighter. Downside: the car was yellow and had a large hood decal. I made the deal anyway, started autocrossing, and a year later zipped the decal off the hood. It was the first of two turbocharged 2.3 liter 4-cylinder Mustangs I owned (the second was an SVO several years later), and the first of three cars I've owned powered by turbocharged 2.3 liter engines (the third was a MazdaSpeed6 - whose engine trumps the first two 2.3s by far in sophistication, smoothness, mileage, power, torque, reliability, and every other possible measure).

The Cobra Mustang did well on the autocross track... although it didn't make for much of a high-speed trackday car. The Cobra had even smaller brakes all around than the V-8.

I really liked the good looks of the Capri versus the Mustang. I always thought I'd built a Mustang with the flared fenders of the Capri (even though they didn't have any more room inside than the Mustang). . Here's a commercial for an '80 Capri so you can see what they looked like (ignore the ugly hood scoop - that came along in 1980).

I never did get my Capri... although a few years later I did pick up an old German-made Capri as a winter car. That was an entirely different and unrelated Capri, with a 2-liter Pinto engine, a long-tube header, and an out-sized Weber carb. It also solved my winter rust problem, since I could leave my Mustang in a garage all winter.

Coincidentally, my late-model Mustang career was book-ended with "Cobra" Mustangs. The first one ('79) was good enough to start the entire string... the last one ('03) was an absolute quality disaster from the engineering nincompoops of SVT.  You can read about the '03 here:


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Sunday, May 20, 2007  

 Mustang SVO section updated
 

I've been working on my Mustang SVO @ Nelson Ledges article and have updated the entire SVO section. Lots more details as I drive myself to remember the details... which is tough - it was 25 years ago!

Revising the section will allow me to straighten out the article, separate SVO from non-SVO facts, and make it easier overall to read.

I've also added some new materials about the Watkings Glen Mustang SVO pace cars, some info on driving my own SVO at the Glen, my follow-up to the SVO in 1991, and a link to my existing article about the RS1600I I discovered parked outside my tent at Nelson Ledges one morning during the race.

It's great to see interest in preserving and restoring Mustang SVOs going very strong. The SVO was a unique chapter in Ford's history - given the current calamilty at Ford (of their own doing), we probably won't see anything like this ever again.


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Sunday, April 08, 2007  

 What ever became of your old cars?
 

Have you ever wondered what ever became of your old cars? Did the kid who bought it wreck it? Did the old lady who bought it drive it only on Sundays? Did the new owners ever find out about the all the mods you did - and then removed?

A good way to find out is with CARFAX. Membership is inexpensive http://www.carfax.com, and the results are detailed. Using the VIN numbers, I recently looked up several of the cars I've owned during the past 20 years.

My '94 Cobra:


This one is the exception to the usual rule. I traded it in to a dealer on a '96 Cobra. The dealer whole-saled it to another Ford dealer, who sold it to a person who later became a friend. I was sitting in my office at IBM one day when the phone rang and a person asked "are you the person who used to own a '94 Cobra?". I figured it had blown up and was hesitating to to answer... until he said it was fine and wanted to know some of the dertails about the car. Things naturally went in the direction of track events (as they do in any conversation with me), and a month later he was at his first event at Texas World Speedway, and shortly afterwards was doing mid-130s thru turn one! Later, when a twin-turpo Supra enticed him (as they do with everybody), he sold it to a friend of his who also took up the same events, and is still doing them to this day. That person also became a friend.

The '94 Cobra was the most successful track car I've ever owned. I put 22,000 very hard miles on it, and it only had a very few issues (loss of a MAF, front control arm bushings). Currenlty, it had over 80k miles on it and it is still running strong, although there have been a few T-5 transmission issues (all solved). With Ford motorsport headers, an exhaust system, a larger MAF, a complete suspension replacement (the V-6 based SVT suspension was terrible when stock) including a much-needed panhard bar, and a set of racing seats, the car is dependable and predictable. It isn't particularly fast (the market for performance cars has moved well beyond what a pushrod 5 liter V-8 can compete against) but it is dead reliable. I drove it about 4 years ago and fondly remembered it's predictablility and dependability.

CARFAX - shows the change of registrations from me to the 2 other owners in succession. No issues shown.

My '97 SHO:

My '97 SHO was a lease, serving the purpose of daily driver when I was in Redmond with Microsoft. I had it about a month when I came back to Austin before I had to turn it in (coinciding with the arrival of my '99 Cobra) and in that time I took it out on the track at Texas World Speedway just to confirm my high-speed impressions of it. It was flawless there, although of course not particularly fast.

When I turned it in, it was in perfect condition. It did have one distinctive mark on it from a scrape on a peice of cement in a parking lot, under the front left bumper.

After I turned it in, I spotted the car up the road in Elgin TX in front of the City Cafe. It was clearly my car, as evdenced by the same mark under the bumper. Soon after I saw the car several times again and came to the conclusion that the new owner lived somewhere near my house. I even saw it at the neighborhood 7-11 and almost stopped to talk. No point in that, though.

CARFAX - unbelievable: the new owner kept it to the 122,000 mile mark and has moved to San Antonio. A year ago, the car was sold at dealer auction and hasn't been re-registered since. I'm disapointed at that, but not surprised. The SHO engine had it's reliability problems and I'm surprised it lasted this long. RIP, SHO.

My '99 Cobra:

 

The '99 Cobra was my first big build-up after my return to Texas from Redmond WA. The increased power and the new independent rear suspension made this car work very well. Modifications (see link above) mad eit work even better.

I kept the '99 for two years, then sold it to a friend who in turn turn sold it almost immediately when it didn't work out as a track car for him.

CARFAX - the '99 is in it's 4th owner, but still in Texas. As of last Fall, it has 59k miles on it. At one point in 2004, it was sold thru a dealer to it's current owner outside of Houston. I do wonder if it stil has it's Recaro seats and the othe rmods I made to it.

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Several years ago, I looked up some of my more infamous cars on CARFAX.

  • The hated 1983 Mustang GT ended up wrecked at the same dealer I traded it into for my Mustang SVO. That's a fitting end for a car that was an absolute piece of junk.
  • My '96 Cobra, complete with Yellow KONI DAs, was still in the state of Washington - but is in it's 3rd owner. The 2nd owner, no doubt had to spend all of their money on back surgery due to the KONIs and the thousand-pound front springs. That was one great car on the track, but a bone-crusher on public roads. All-around, you couldn't live with it.

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So CARFAX will give you the mileage at major milestones such as registration renewal, major dealer service, or austion sale. It will also indicate whether the car has been crashed and received major body damage. Flood, fire, and lemon buybacks are also indicated. Junk and salvage tieles are also shown. An estimate of yearly mileage is computed. Any potential odometer rollback is indicated.

That's the extent of the information CARFAX can provide... if you want to know more you could take the VIN to a dealer and ask them to run a service history on the car. They won't of course tell you the name of the current owner, bvut you could see what kind of servicing and parts replacement it's had.

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But there is more to this research going on in my mind... like most of the cars I've had, these three were originally love/hate relationships. I drove them ruthlessly on the track, or left them carelessly in whatever open parking spot could be found. They had a single purpose to me and I drove them to within an inch of their lives in achieving that purpose. The Mustangs were driven at 10/10ths for most of their lives. The SHO was left in any open spot that could be found on the Microsofct campus - that was after all it's purpose - and it was even driven near flat-out on dirt roads in the Olympic National Forest in Washington State while spectating at a SCCA Pro Rally. It ended up stuck in a ditch, but it served the purpose of getting me to some great spectating locations.

When I was done with these cars, I left them behind, very rarely giving them a second thought. I was already on to the next one at that point, ruthlessly driving yet another car to 10/10ths of it's life while plotting another round of mods or planning it's disposal for yet another track car. 

And after many years of this I've come to one conclusion: that this is the problem with this hobby. It's very difficult to "love them as they are". You lust after them until you finally own them, and then inevitably find there is always something dead wrong or something that needs major (and expensive) improvement. Finally in the end you hate them and move on to something else. After several of these, you realize you never even liked them for what they were.

There are very few of them you look back fondly at - and never until years later when you have exhausted the hobby and then find new dimensions to it such as restoring old cars. For example, I'd love to find and restore an original 240Z - even though the car would be useless as a track car, is dead slow by modern standards, and has the chassis integrity of a wet noddle, there is something timeless in it's appeal. Even thirty-seven laters later, it's got stunning looks. This is a car that could be a keeper, one that I'd preserve, protect, and even cherish.  And if there are some fellow hobbyists who also see the value of certain classic cars like I do, then chances are they've also exhausted the love/hate beat/abuse track hobby.

Next month will be the 27th anniversary of track events for me. My first event was, I believe, in May of 1980 at a Corvette Club of Cleveland event at Nelson Ledges. The car was a '79 Indy Pace Car Mustang, and it had it's faults. Nevertheless, I ditched the car for an '83 Mustang GT which turned out to be an absolute piece of junk and was a major mistake. That was the beginning of my love/hate phase of track events - and particularly of Fords for track events.

If I've found love since then, and perhaps even reformed (recovered?), it's with the S2000. It's not the fastest thing around the track (although it is within the top 15%), but it is the most fun and the most visceral car I've ever driven (and as an instructor I've driven nearly everything made in the past ~20 years). It's a car you like from the first drive and to the last. It's taught me far more about driving than any of the Mustangs ever did. Instead of relying on brute (and unreliable) power, it relies on finesse. Instead of the loosing power while trying to figure out how to get the power down to the ground you are challenged to keep the engine in it's power band (a stratospheric 6-9k RPM), really leverage the full abilities of the independent rear suspension, and focus the razor-sharp steering on finding and keeping the perfect line. All of this makes for a car that will run circles around most others, while constantly and repeatedly endearing itself to you. I have no doubt I'll someday be restoring one of these for concours events, while at the same time explaining to folks what I've done with them over the years - both on track and on back-roads driving (something no Mustang ever had any capabilities for). And that's what true love is all about - a lifetime of stories, perhaps even love lost - but above all having and remembering good times without excuse or regret.


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